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  1. How do I load my Mosin-Nagant with a stripper clip, [charger]?
  2. What is the definition of Curios or Relics firearms and what is an antique firearm?
  3. What is corrosive ammunition and what should I know and do about it?
  4. How quickly can the rust cause a problem?
  5. Does my Mosin have a safety?
  6. What is the best way to remove cosmoline?
  7. How do I disassemble the bolt?
  8. What is a "bound book"?
  9. How do you pronounce "Mosin Nagant"?

How do I load my Mosin-Nagant with a stripper clip, [charger]?

Answer:

Place the 5 round charger clip over the mag well with your thumb over the rim of the cartridge pushing down & your index finger under the bullet tip slightly lifting up & guiding down as well. While loading, keep in mind to place the rim of the top round in front of the rim of the round beneath it.

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What is the definition of Curios or Relics firearms and what is an antique firearm?

Answer:

Here is the definition of Firearms Curios or Relics from the Code Federal Regulations 27CFR478.11:
 

Quote from: ATF:
Firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:

(a) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof;

(b) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and

(c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.


Note that if a particular firearm was made 50 or more years ago, it qualifies as a Relic per subparagraph (a) but that does not mean that all firearms of a model year qualify.

For example, not all Model 1894 Winchesters would qualify as a relic. Only those actually made 50 or more years longer ago would be relics.

You would have to see if a later made Model 1894 qualifies as a Curio by checking the
ATF Curios or Relics List.

This is the definition of an Antique Firearm:
 

Quote from: ATF

 

(a) Any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; and (b) any replica of any firearm described in paragraph (a) of this definition if such replica (1) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or (2) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.


As mentioned above, the date the particular rifle was made is what matters, not the model year. Thus a Mauser Model 98 made in 1898 would be an antique; one made during WWI or WWII would not be an Antique but would qualify as a Relic.

 

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What is corrosive ammunition and what should I know and do about it?

Answer:

Corrosive ammunition has primers that leave a potassium chloride (a type of salt) residue in the rifle after the cartridge is fired. The salt attracts water and the water causes the metal to rust.

Most foreign military 7.62x54R surplus ammunition is “corrosive”.  Always assume military surplus 7.62x54R ammunition is corrosive or risk a rusted and pitted barrel.

The salt can be cleaned out of the bore by running water soaked patches straight through the bore. Do not pull the patches back – let them fall off when through the bore. Some shooters like to use an ammonia based cleaner (which is mostly water). Others like to pour boiling hot water through the bore.

Next run a couple of dry patches through the bore and clean the bore with a regular bore cleaning solvent such as Hoppe’s No. 9. This will remove the other types of residue from the bore.

Clean the other metal surfaces such as on the bolt, extended bayonet, etc. using first water or a water based cleaner as above, and then regular solvent.

Finish with a light coating of oil on all surfaces.

Always run a dry patch or two through the bore before shooting the rife.

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How quickly can the rust cause a problem?

Answer:

In a humid climate rust can start to form in an uncleaned bore in as little as 15 minutes.  Active rust in a bore can be cleaned with a good bore brush and some solvent after some boiling water has been run through it to remove any salts that might be causing the rust in the first place.  Once the bore is clear of the rust itself you will be left with the pits the rust caused in the metal, this is metal the rust ate, and what causes a bore to look dark after it has been cleaned of normal fouling.  The pits can effect accuracy for the negative, but not always if they are very small, and well away from the muzzle, but they will not cause any unsafe operating conditions so long as they have not massively eroded one or more areas to the point the barrel is thinned, and it would take underwater immersion for years to do that, or poor storage for many decades in a damp place.  Sounds like your rifle has the common sort of pitting often found in milsurps that shot nothing but corrosive ammo for all of their service lives.  Scrub it, use JB bore paste, and fire it (this will also loosen stubborn deposits in the lands of the bore after the bulk has been scrubbed away)

If you live a good distance from the range, and can't clean the rifle within a half hour after shooting run an oil soaked patch through the bore after you are done shooting, and I mean oil of the motor oil type, not WD40, that will keep the rust cooties away until you get home and do the full cleaning.  An oil patch will not hold off the rust for long, so don't delay cleaning once you get home. a few hours tops.

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Does my Mosin have a safety?

Answer:

Yes; with the bolt closed, pull back on the bolt and rotate counter-clockwise and release.  Your rifle is now "safe". First place the butt plate of the rifle in the crook of the elbow, then pull back on the cocking piece and rotate it counter-clockwise about 45 degrees. Special care should be taken when taking it off safe, as it is possible to have an Accidental Discharge. Have the butt plate in the crook of the elbow again, and be sure to have the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. It's best to practice with a firearm you personally have assured is UNLOADED.

While using the safety, ALWAYS treat your firearm as though it does not have a safety and is loaded.

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What is the best way to remove cosmoline?

Answer:

There are two proven ways to remove cosmoline from your stock.

One way is to thoroughly wrap your stock in newspaper and place it in a large/sturdy black plastic garbage bag. Seal it up well and place it on the dash of your vehicle on a warm sunny day. Leave it there for at least two hours or more. This will "bake" the stock & heat up the cosmoline causing it to melt out of the wood & into the newspaper. Simply remove the stock & wipe it down. If necessary, repeat the procedure.

The other way is to use your oven at home. Make & place a tinfoil tray in the bottom rack of the oven & turn the oven on low (No more than 150 degrees). Put the stock in for about 20 minutes. Once it is warmed up, carefully remove it & wipe it down. Repeat the process until the results are satisfactory.

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How do I disassemble the bolt?
Answer:
Disassembly article on the RMNF main site: http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/cleaning.htm

What is a "bound book"?
Answer:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#e1
A "bound book" is a permanently bound book or an orderly arrangement of loose-leaf pages which must be maintained on the business premises. The format must follow that prescribed in the regulations, and the pages must be numbered consecutively. [27 CFR 478.121 and 478.125] (This is taken directly from the ATF website shown above!!!)

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How do you pronounce "Mosin Nagant"?

Answer:

Place the emphasis on bold syllables:

moye seen  nah gon

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